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Re: WW2 computer
If major games ever get to be easier to install and play on Linux, it could be more of a hit with the average Public which at this point hasn't even heard of Linux and usually thinks it's a furnace or something. Apple is probably less used, but more well known. Another solidly built computer was the Apple IIe. They kept on ticking for a very long time. I saw someone was still trying to sell one in the classifieds this week.
Cyberclops wrote:
> Actually Linux has gotten very bloated, and yes Libranet is very bloated too. My hope is that Libranet II will be worked out in such a way that we will be able to easily par the system down to exclusively the programs we want to use, without emasculating the GUI interfaces we also like to use (ICE). For example about the only KDE things I want are konqueror along with the advanced text editor, although if worse came to worse, I think I could live with just "mc".
> About the only word processor I would want is the most recent Abby word. I would then only want "gqview," the "gimp," probably "gphoto" and a few other applications managed through the ICEwm windowing environment. I think if our systems were a lot smaller, we could understand them better. Ideally I would have kernel that was compiled specifically for my own hardware. I would of course still like the Xadminmenu, and a nice really classy GUI front end for "apt-get"
> which could some how show you a little preview of the application and tell you exactly the command to launch it. I've down loaded some stuff through apt-get only to find out that I have no idea how to launch the program. Plus I don't even know the command set for "apt-get" so obviously I don't get the most out of that anyway.
>
> "[email protected]" wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 23:07:36 -0600, you wrote:
> >
> > >Hi everyone. I was given an old comp to tinker with today, it has windows 3.1 (before my time) so I havent learned much about it yet. Its called IBM PS2 mod56sx.....I think the hard drive is about 78MB ...unk about modem or sound, it has vga monitor......anybody familiar with this, and whether I might could get libranet in it??? it only has a floppy drive right now. Ivve searched on google but w/out much success so far as to tech info on this relic. Tony Horsley
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Late Cold War iron
> >
> > Its a 20MHZ 386. Might or might not have the optional 80387 math
> > co-processor.
> >
> > A desktop built like a steel tank Cost about $2900 in Jan 1992
> >
> > it was a low price general business and LAN workstation built to last
> > :-)
> >
> > The bus is IBM 16 bit Micro Channel (does not take ISA VESA or PCI
> > cards)
> >
> > it takes from 4-16MB of RAM. (NOT current types but still available)
> > PS/2 72-pin DRAM SIMM 70ns WITH parity (error checking)
> > Probably yours has 4 or 8MB
> >
> > Has a 3.5 inch 2.88MB also accepts 1.44 disks.
> >
> > Has an integrated SCSI controller. Yours is the 80GB SCSI drive (if
> > you say you still have it) Access time: is 8.3ms !!!! similar to
> > 7200 RPM drives today. Though the xfer rate is lower.
> >
> > Uses special internal floppy and SCSI cables are not standard today.
> >
> > NO it does NOT have IDE controller. IBM believed SCSI was superior. Of
> > course they were pretty much right.
> >
> > Integrated VGA Display adapter does 320x200, 256 colors
> > or 640x480, 16 colors. Monitor was extra and there were microchannel
> > upgrade video cards.
> >
> > PS/2 mouse PS/2 keyboard (common today)
> >
> > one serial and one parallel port
> >
> > Came with IBM PC DOS 5.0. (Runs also later DOSes including DRDOS 6
> > OpenDOS, NovelDOS7 and some MSDOS versions
> >
> > The system BIOS Setup runs off a floppy disk. There is also a
> > diagnostics floppy. These are somewhere for download on the web.
> >
> > I'll bet the thing still runs !! If not you just need the Setup or
> > Diagnostics disk
> >
> > ? How do I know all this ?
> >
> > I saw onetwo months ago running Slackware Linux 2.x !
> >
> > I also once had a recycled one as my first Windows capable machine in
> > 3.1 days. Mostly I ran Geoworks over DRDOS though.
> >
> > These are also still in industrial use in factories and even (yes
> > today) in nuclear plants. Running DOS or OS/2 or custom software of
> > course.
> >
> > Would work easily with an external modem 28.8
> >
> > There are plenty of microchannel ethernet cards for these still out
> > there.
> >
> > I never had a sound card myself.
> >
> > What would it be good for?
> >
> > Excellent DOS machine
> >
> > Play old Classic abandonware games DOS and Win 3.1 games like those
> > found at Underdogs www.theunderdogs.org/
> >
> > Connect to internet from DOS using free Arachne graphical web browser
> > http://www.arachne.cz/ (fits on a floppy) he he he There is a Linux
> > version too.
> >
> > or LYNX text web browser of course.
> >
> > An office suite? Try Geoworks (later versions called New Deal)
> > http://www.newdealinc.com/ which runs fine on DOS. It has a GREAT
> > little word processor, multitasking, spreadsheet, windowing, drawing
> > program etc that runs fine on a 286 with 640MB RAM.
> >
> > And of course ...
> >
> > TAL NEEDS YOU for Libranet 2.0 testing
> > (just kidding)
> >
> > Linux has gotten bloated these days too.
> > (just kidding)
> >
> > It might well also run OpenBSD.
> > This kind of hardware might well have applications in security.
> >
> > It won't run Libranet which is compiled for a 486.
> >
> > Incidentally I just don't see any actual noticable gain at all in
> > Linux distros compiled for 586.
> >
> > Csisysph
> >
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